Welcome to Sunstorm, where we get real about what’s happening in the world and what we’re doing about it. Because we are the light in the storm.

Sunstorm is an audio salon hosted by two of America’s leading activists, Alicia Garza and Ai-jen Poo, where they talk to their friends and sheroes about how women, especially women of color, stay powerful & joyful amidst the chaos of life in America today.

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April 7, 2020: BONUS: How We Care About Care
Over 100 million Americans are in a caregiving crisis, trying to juggle the emotional, financial, and logistical demands of caring for loved ones across generations. Alicia and Ai-jen know exactly what that’s like—they’ve both found themselves caring for elders who used to care for them, in a system that’s confusing and wildly expensive. Where did this crisis come from, and what’s the solution? How can we shine a light on the invisible caregiving millions of women do? And how can we build a sustainable “care and repair” economy that prioritizes this important work for everyone? So many questions! We don’t have all the answers, but we can tell you what you can do right now to get involved and help build momentum for serious policy change. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

March 31, 2020: Hope, Resilience and Tequila with Alicia and Ai-jen
For our season finale, Alicia and Ai-jen are answering your questions: How can we stay human in the midst of a global pandemic? What’s the secret to building a sustainable grassroots movement? And what should you be doing right now (from home, of course) to push for a progressive policy response to the coronavirus crisis? Plus, the ladies share their isolation faves (fancy tequila and reality TV are involved), and reflect on the most important lessons they’ve learned in their decades of activism. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

March 24, 2020: Governing in a Crisis with Rep. Ayanna Pressley
A new episode recorded on a phone call this week! Social distancing in full effect! Ai-jen, Alicia, and Rep. Ayanna Pressley connected from their homes to discuss hope in a time of crisis, movement building, mutual support, and comfort food. Rep. Pressley also explains how a casual photo op brought the Congressional Squad together, sparking friendship and a sense of progressive power that goes way beyond these four women. (She wouldn’t show us the Squad group chat, though.) Plus: The importance of birthday cake when it’s not your birthday, and Rep. Pressley’s top five tips for living well in “the time of the rona.” Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

March 17, 2020: Are We OK with Kamau Bell
It’s our first dude on the show! Comedian, author, and United Shades of America host W. Kamau Bell explains how feeling like an outsider shaped his worldview, and gives props to his mom, who smashed barriers of all kinds while raising him alone. Plus: Why it’s OK to laugh at things you don’t agree with, learning the value of listening, and what we really mean when we say there are “two Americas.” Kamau and Alicia also bond over their shared passion for pimple-popping videos. Ai-jen is mildly horrified. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

March 10, 2020: Being 100% Yourself with Dawn-Lyen Gardner
According to “Queen Sugar” star Dawn-Lyen Gardner, she’d be Alicia and Ai-jen’s baby, if Alicia and Ai-jen had a baby. Dawn explains the complexity that drew her to playing Charley West—and how the role has helped her learn about herself. The ladies also discuss what it’s like to be “100% a lot of things” as members of many different communities, and get very, very real about Hollywood’s complicated relationship with activism. Recorded live at the Hammer Museum in Los Angeles. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

March 3, 2020: Making Friends with Aminatou Sow
“I don’t shine if you don’t shine”. Writer, podcast host, and all-around badass Aminatou Sow tells Alicia and Ai-jen why she believes that everything worth doing takes time—and why it’s so important to fight for ourselves and for those who come after us. The ladies also smash misconceptions about self-care (spoiler alert: it’s not just mani-pedis, it’s political) and discuss Shine Theory, a concept Aminatou developed with her BFF and “Call Your Girlfriend” co-host Ann Friedman. How are women building a new political culture based on the premise that “I don’t shine if you don’t shine”? How can we gain power by replacing competition with collaboration? And what does it take to truly invest in each other as friends? Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

February 25, 2020: Getting Into Good Trouble
All you have to do is show up. How can we stay present, focused, and engaged in these chaotic times? Alicia and Ai-jen share their personal chill-out tips, then discuss why protesting is a powerful action—and a great way to get inspired and connect with your community. The ladies reflect on their first protest experiences (and arrests!), and offer practical advice for protesting, including what to bring, what to wear, and the ideal speaker-to-song ratio. You’ll also hear voices from Jane Fonda’s Fire Drill Friday climate protests in Washington D.C., as women from across the country explain their motivations for putting their bodies where their values are. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

February 18, 2020: Listening to our inner voices with Sarah Jones
Twerking for the revolution! Make it clap so we can heal! In this ep, we cry laughing with Tony Award-winning writer/performer Sarah Jones as she embodies the voices of many different characters to help us all get to the root of what we're fighting for. She tells Alicia and Ai-jen how her family inspired the varied voices that brought her from downtown cafes to Broadway, and why making people laugh is such an essential part of her work. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

February 11, 2020: Advice from Women Changing the World
We all need help and we all need each other. For this inspiring episode, Alicia and Ai-jen gathered five of their best friends and fellow women changing the world for an evening of tequila, face masks, and serious wisdom. Listen in as Tarana Burke, Fatima Goss Graves, Mónica Ramírez, Teresa C Younger, and Sarita Gupta open up about their hopes for 2020, the need for quiet time, helping women see their own power, and connecting across generations. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

February 4, 2020: Get To Know Ai-jen & Alicia
How do you become a leading activist in America? In this deeply personal episode Ai-jen and Alicia open up about their families, their intros to social justice, and how their friendship and activism became intertwined. Ai-jen and Alicia are BFFs, badass activists, and your guides to finding light in the storm, but it was a journey to get there! There’s plenty of laughter as the ladies share previously untold stories about their childhoods (can you guess who threw food, and who was “the baby from heaven”?). Plus: Alicia’s child modeling career, Ai-jen’s “Miami Vice” obsession, and Shannen Doherty as fashion inspo. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

January 28, 2020: Heather McGhee On Making Empathy Go Viral
When Heather McGhee isn’t fighting for justice, writing, teaching, and raising her son, she’s daydreaming about biscuits (butter only, please). She tells Alicia and Ai-jen how she got involved with economic policy advocacy, what she learned about the intersection of racism and inequality after the 2008 financial crisis, and how becoming a parent made her work even more urgent. Plus: What really happened after Heather’s viral TV moment with Gary in North Carolina. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

Jan. 24, 2020: Chani Nicholas Reminds Us We Were Born For This
Astrologer Chani Nicholas joins Alicia and Ai-jen to discuss the intersection of social justice and the stars. They discuss her New York Times-bestselling book, “You Were Born For This,” and what the planets say about this year. She also clarifies the aspects of astrology that people often misunderstand (hint: the stars and planets can guide you, but they can’t do the work for you). Plus: Overcoming self-doubt, finding your true purpose, guilty fashion pleasures, and Chani’s passion for pie. Subscribe and listen or download the transcript .

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